Jean-Jacques Debout was the guest of "C à vous" on Wednesday April 17. The singer-songwriter has just celebrated his 84th birthday but does not plan to retire immediately.

He also returned to his relationship with Jacques Mesrine, whom he knew before his destiny as a criminal, when they were still children. The two men remained friends for a long time until Mesrine kidnapped Debout while he was on tour to support Barbara in Canada. He was afraid for his life when he was slapped in the back of the car and told him: "Go for it. I have all the police behind me. I have all the police behind me.' "The France 5 presenter exclaims: "It's completely crazy, but it's so funny.' "He was slapping her," Debout says. "It was terrible. And I didn't know it was him,' says the guest to Anne-Elisabeth Lemoine.